Last modified: Mar 14, 2024

Audi Q8 e-tron electric motors & setup

Audi Q8 e-tron has powerful electric motors both in twin and tri-motor configuration. Audi Q8 e-tron has 3 different motor configurations.

Motor configuration

They have designed two induction motors (asynchronous motors) that are used in the 3 different configurations. The motors used in Audi Q8 e-tron is an improved version of the one used in Audi e-tron.

For Audi Q8 e-tron, Audi modified the asynchronous motor on the rear axle.

Instead of 12 coils generating the electromagnetic field, there are now 14. As a result, the motor generates a stronger magnetic field with similar electricity input, allowing for more torque. As a result, the electric motor requires less energy to generate torque if this isn’t needed. This change lowers consumption and increases range.

Motor configuration

Improved rear motor with 14 windings

Audi Q8 50 e-tron, Q8 55 e-tron and SQ8 e-tron uses the same motors but in different configuration.

It is one with 247Nm torque called 250 and one with 314Nm torque called 320. They are used in different configurations on the different models.

On Q8 50 e-tron on Q8 55 e-tron they have the 250 in front with a parallel (APA250) axle and the 320 rear with coaxial axle (ATA320). In SQ8 e-tron they have the 320 in front (APA320) and two 250 in the back (ATA250)

Motor configuration

Motor configuration

The table below summarizes the performance for the version

APA250ATA320APA3202 x ATA250
Power125 kW140kW129kW205 kW
Power w/boost135 kW165 kW157 kW276 kW
Torque247 Nm314 Nm314 Nm494 Nm
Torque w/booost309 Nm355 Nm355 Nm618 Nm
Electric motor performance figures

Electric motor performance figures

Drivetrain motor setup

Audi Q8 50 e-tron & Audi Q8 50 e-tron motor setup

For both Q8 50 e-tron and Q8 55 e-tron Audi uses the AKA320 drive unit for the rear. This is a drive unit with 314nm torque (355nm with boost on Q8 55 e-tron) and it has a coaxial configuration on the axels (axels goes through the unit)

The motors have a 2 stage plantaery gear differentsial

Front electric motor with power electronics

Front electric motor with power electronics

Rear electric motor with power electronics

Rear electric motor with power electronics

e-tron 50/55 drivetrain with electric motors

Q8 50/55 e-tron drivetrain with electric motors

Audi SQ8 e-tron

In the SQ8 e-tron model Audi has moved the rear motor from Q8 e-tron 50 and Q8 e-tron 55 to the front and taken two front motors and combined them together on the rear axle.

2 x 138 kW boost power / 2 x 70kW continuous power / 2 stages, 1 gear / liquid cooled

Total 155kg.

Rear electric motor with power electronics

Rear electric motor with power electronics

Rear electric motor with power electronics

Rear electric motor with power electronics

Rear electric motor with power electronics

Rear electric motor with power electronics

Rear electric motor with power electronics

Rear electric motor with power electronics

e-tron s drivetrain with electric motors

e-tron s drivetrain with electric motors

This technical animation shows the total axle drive set up in the Audi e-tron S.

Animation of the drivetrain construction, twin motor, and coolant circuit of the Audi e-tron S Sportback.

Cooling

Each motor has liquid stator cooling, bearing plate cooling, and rotor internal cooling that Audi e-tron maximum thermal robustness under all operating conditions.

e-tron s drivetrain with electric motors

Cooling

e-tron s drivetrain with electric motors

Cooling

e-tron s drivetrain with electric motors

Cooling

This diagram shows how the rotor internal cooling helps keep the temperature low.

e-tron s drivetrain with electric motors

Cooling

This animation shows the cooling and heat dissipation of the twin-coax drive.

Brake recuperation: output of up to 265 kW

While braking, the electric motors perform decelerations alone up to around 0.3 g, i.e. the vast majority of all brake applications in everyday driving. The hydraulic wheel brakes are activated only when the driver brakes very heavily. The transition is almost unnoticeable, and recuperation remains active almost up to a standstill. If both electric motors are involved in brake recuperation in order to ensure handling stability, they can recover up to 275 kW of power. In all driving situations – be it full acceleration, dynamic handling, coasting or brake recuperation – the Audi e-tron remains unshakably stable because its control systems for brakes, suspension, drive, and power electronics are closely connected and work together quickly.

Differential and electric torque vectoring

In addition to electric all-wheel drive, Audi e-tron S are equipped with electric torque vectoring:

For reasons relating to efficiency, the rear electric motors in the Audi e-tron S and e-tron S Sportback provide propulsion when driving normally. The front electric motor is deenergized, but flashes into action when the driver demands more output, or predictively before slip occurs when driving on slippery roads or cornering at high speed. This electric all-wheel drive is now being enhanced with electric torque vectoring at the rear axle: Each of the two electric motors send their torques directly to the wheel via a transmission; there is no longer a mechanical differential.

Thanks to the spontaneity of the electric motors, electric torque vectoring, that is the distribution of the torque between the rear wheels, takes place within milliseconds. The time offset as compared to a mechanical system is shorter by a factor of four. It can also manage considerably higher torque: When the driver accelerates out of a corner at a sporty speed, the outside rear wheel is subject to 220 Nm (162.3 lb-ft) more than the inside wheel. Due to the gear ratio, the difference at the wheels is around 2,100 Nm (1,548.9 lb-ft). The yaw moment that is generated supports the steering characteristics and the curve radius can be retained with a smaller steering angle. Electric torque vectoring also offers great strengths in terms of pure traction: If one of the rear wheels is on very slippery ground during acceleration, e.g. a patch of ice or gravel, it receives no torque. Almost all of the torque is transferred to the wheel that has stronger traction.

A prerequisite for the high speed and precision with which the electric all-wheel drive and the electric torque vectoring work is the close linking of the following control units: the Electronic Stabilization Control (ESC), the drive control unit (ASG), the electronic chassis platform (ECP), and the control units of the performance electronics, which output voltage pulses up to 10,000 times per second. All software functions, apart from the ESC, are Audi in-house developments that benefit from the brand’s roughly 40 years of quattro experience.

The ECP is the mastermind among the control units: It makes the crucial contribution to the management of the all-wheel drive and electric torque vectoring. It calculates the ideal distribution of longitudinal and transverse torque on the basis of the data from the sensors that continuously inform it on the car’s driving condition and the driver’s request. One of its tasks is wheel-selective torque control: At the dynamic limit, the unloaded front wheel on the inside of the curve is braked slightly via the wheel brake. This minor, almost unnoticeable intervention prevents slip and makes handling even more agile and neutral.

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